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[00:01:00] Hey, folks. Welcome back to The Testing Psychologist podcast. I have a fantastic guest for us today. Jana Parker is a licensed educational psychologist and the founder of Mind by Design, a multidisciplinary group practice in Campbell, California, offering psychoeducational evaluations, therapeutic services, and educational support.She is also the owner of Empower LEP, which we are talking about today, an initiative that includes a podcast and online platform designed to inspire and educate licensed educational psychologists and school psychologists who are transitioning from public education to private practice in California and beyond.
Through her work, Jana provides practical guidance, encouragement, and inspiration to professionals making that career shift while fostering access to high-quality services for children, teens, young adults, and parents. Jana’s got a lot going on.
Today, we’re tackling this topic of licensed educational psychologists and the ways that Jana is empowering them. I think this is very [00:02:00] relevant for folks out there who are considering an LEP licensure, for school psychologists who are considering making the leap in a private practice.
We talk about the ins and outs of that process. We talk about the unique needs of those folks and the support that they need and many other things. This is action-packed and pretty informative. So if you are an individual who’s considering a private practice, especially in California as an LEP, this is the episode for you.
Without further ado, here’s my conversation with Jana Parker from Empower LEP.
Jana, hey, welcome to the podcast.
Jana: Thanks so much for having me. I’m excited.
Dr. Sharp: Likewise. I was glad to get an introduction through a mutual friend, [00:03:00] Scott Robson, who we all love. I’m excited for this conversation. You’ve got a unique little niche going on there with working with LEPs. So we will dive deep into that, but first I will start with a question that I always start with, which is, why this? Why spend your life in this pursuit?
Jana: Gosh, I feel like you’re talking about two things:
1. What is the pursuit of my actual life’s work with my practice?
2. Why am I doing Empower LEP? Why am I running that? You want to know the answer to both?
Dr. Sharp: Yeah. They both occupy a good bit of your time.
Jana: All right. I’m out here in California. I was always a certainty kind of person. [00:04:00] Taking it back to childhood, I loved dancing. I was a dancer. I just wanted to perform. So I was very into that, but I also realized that that might not be a good choice for a life career. And so I was always very into people and why people do what they do.
I always knew I would be a psychology major, but I don’t know why I thought that, but it was just always something I was into. And then I thought, I shouldn’t be a dancer. I should be a psychologist and then my parents said, “If you don’t go to graduate school right away, you’re never going to go back. So you might as well go.” And so I started a Clinical PsyD program and just thought, “Wait a second, I actually don’t want to be a therapist, this is not what I want to do.” I was introduced to school psychology while I was in that program.
So I [00:05:00] quit the graduate program and thought, okay, school psychologists, it’s like trade school for psychology. You know exactly what you’re going to do when you finish and that’s really what I wanted. I always wanted something where I was like, I’m great. I’m going to have a school job. I’m going to work 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM. I’m going to have weekends off. I’m not going to have to work holidays. What a great schedule. I’ll have a pension and benefits. And that felt good and secure to me. And then, lo and behold, I’m an entrepreneur.
Dr. Sharp: Isn’t that wild how it just creeps up on you?
Jana: Yeah. I never thought that I would be here, but what I realized about myself as I was going through my career as a school psychologist is I was not the kind of person who was going to be in one place and have a lifetime career in one school district. There are many people who feel very good about that and I just realized I [00:06:00] wasn’t that.
So every two years, I found a different job. I wanted to work with a different population; preschool, high school, elementary, and post-secondary. I wanted to try a lot of different things within the field. I also felt like once I came into a school and cleaned up shop, I got a little bored and I needed to move on to the next challenge.
And so I realized I had more of an entrepreneurial spirit than I had anticipated. I got lucky and ventured out into the private practice world because I was offered an opportunity to work at a private practice clinic that was run by a doctor.
In California, and this is something for your listeners in California, there is something called licensed [00:07:00] educational psychologist. I always knew as a school psychologist that I would go get that license just because I wanted to have it in my back pocket, and I think a lot of people do that, but I didn’t know that I was going to have the opportunity that I got to work in a practice and not even have to work at finding a way to use that license.
I can go into that a bit more too, but I learned about private practice working at this clinic. I was like, I really want to have a multidisciplinary clinic because as a school psychologist, I felt like I loved having a school team of multidisciplinary educators that I could consult with, assess with, refer [00:08:00] to. I loved that collaboration that we had.
And so that’s what I decided I wanted to do. And so 10 years later, I own a group practice, a small multidisciplinary practice in California. We have educational psychologists, speech pathologists, special educators and tutors. My dream is coming true with that.
And then I was offered to take over this group called Empower LEP. I was approached to do that because I was doing the work of the LEP, which is a specialist-level license. So you can be a master’s level, or specialist-level psychologist in California and have this license, or you can have a doctorate. A lot of us out [00:09:00] here just got our master’s because that’s the most popular graduate school program for school psychology in California is a master’s level program. So most of us out here have a master’s degree.
Most of us never thought that we would go into private practice because it’s so nice to just work for a school district and for so many reasons but I was offered the takeover of this business called Empower LEP, which was a perfect blend of my tenant; performer, dancer, coach. I taught aerobics forever. I was a personal trainer. I love leading and coaching people.
As we as school psychologists are thinking about making a transition into private practice; it’s a huge transition since we’ve worked in a system for so long, and we feel [00:10:00] so golden handcuffs, solid in that system. And so I thought, yeah, I really want to help guide people through this journey into figuring out what it is they want to do outside of the system, whether it’s a little bit or a lot. And so I run Empower LEP with all my free time.
Dr. Sharp: And with all the free time, huh? That’s the entrepreneur’s curse, is that there’s always time for something else. There’s always time. As you tell your story, it strikes me how we have so many paths to do what we like to do. You’ve had this thread of coaching, teaching, leading, and so forth. And that seems like it was present since you were younger. I feel like it’s a matter of time before some of those [00:11:00] skills emerge again. We’re lucky that we can do it in all these different ways with our degrees and our expertise.
Jana: Absolutely. I think that’s one of the powerful and incredible parts of us as people in the mental health and helping professions. Everybody is different. We bring pieces of ourselves to the work that we do. Everybody’s different. It’s not cut and dry or there is no script, we use the strengths that we have to support the kids and the families that we serve as well as the other professionals that we support.
Dr. Sharp: Right. You said a lot of interesting things. There’s a lot of threads to pull on here. The first one, let’s define licensed educational psychologists. What is this and where does it fall in the grand scheme of [00:12:00] licensure? How does it compare to a clinical psychologist, a school psychologist or a master’s level therapist? What is this licensure that y’all have in California?
Jana: Great question. I think that there are some other states that have something similar, but I can’t speak very informatively about that. So I won’t. But I do think that there are some other states that have a license similar. In California it was back in 1970, which is a long time ago, I’m surprised.
Dr. Sharp: It used to not be a long time ago, but all of a sudden now it’s a long time ago.
Jana: Right. I’m surprised that California was forging ahead with a license like this in 1970. It was born out of the need for more [00:13:00] educationally related mental health support for kids outside of the school system. It’s through the Board of Behavioral Sciences, which is the Allied Mental Health Professionals Board in California. So just like it’s a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California for counseling and therapy, the same board has the licensed educational psychologist license.
What it allows for is educationally related services that includes assessments, consultation, advocacy, psychological counseling, anything that’s related to education. [00:14:00] There are several things that we do in my practice, for example, we do psychoeducational evaluation, we do school neuropsychological evaluation for those of us who have gone and gotten extra certification.
We do a lot of parent coaching. I call it a Tier 1 advocacy, so we don’t do advocacy, but because we have this unique school psychology experience, we have a lot of insight into special education law, how things go in schools. Parents often have questions about educationally related things; whether they need help at home getting their kids to do their homework or they’re not understanding what their paperwork at school means, how do they navigate this whole special education system? Is that even the right place for them?
So we can do a lot of [00:15:00] work with families around educationally related questions. I love it. What I found to be the biggest difference between an evaluation that we’re doing in a school versus an evaluation that we’re doing in private practice is that in schools were answering the special education question, is the student eligible or not? In private practice, we’re answering the questions that the families have about their kids related to their education and then whatever else we recommend as well.
Back to your question, we can diagnose out of the DSM, but we’re really looking at the conditions that arise out of the evaluations that we’re doing that are focused on education, but then also looking at how it affects other areas of their [00:16:00] life. So we end up diagnosing the more common things that we’re seeing at schools like ADHD, autism spectrum, learning disabilities, mood, anxiety, depression, developmental disorders, behavioral things.
And in schools, we saw all of that and couldn’t diagnose it. We saw it, we knew it, we would have to say something like appear to have characteristics consistent with ADHD, but we couldn’t say ADHD. In private practice, you can be more transparent with families about what it is, and what they should do about it, and you don’t have the barriers that you had at schools.
Dr. Sharp: That’s great. I’m curious, do the programs specifically track you for an LEP or is that something that you arrive at on your [00:17:00] own? I’m just curious, so it’s a master’s level licensure. You said there’s some doctoral level clinicians that get this licensure as well or did I misunderstand?
Jana: Yeah. You don’t have to be a licensed psychologist. For example, Liz Angoff. Liz Angoff is a PhD and she’s a licensed educational psychologist. She’s amazing, doing amazing things and she’s not a licensed psychologist. There are also some Ph.D.s because, in California, there aren’t that many PhD programs for school psychology, whereas on the East Coast, it’s mostly PhD programs, it seems like.
So we have a lot of master’s level people out here. We do 2 years plus an internship. So it’s a 3-year specialist level degree and [00:18:00] credential. And then you have to have several years of experience as a school psychologist. So you have to have 3 years in school and then you have to take a big exam before becoming a licensed educational psychologist.
So there are requirements. So there’s not a track, but any school psychologist who has the right education, training and supervision can apply and sit for licensure. And so that’s part of what empower LEP helps people do is pass that test.
Dr. Sharp: Yes. That’s a big hoop.
Jana: Yeah, but it’s just like the first two. It’s the most boring hoop; pass the test and then it’s all the rest of figuring out. Back to your question, how do you know how to do it? How do you know how to all of a sudden be in private practice, either seeing private [00:19:00] clients? Or we do a lot of IEEs. So we do a lot of independent educational evaluations.
In fact, in California, there’s Case law that supports having only educational psychologists doing these IEEs. So there are some school districts out here who will not allow for a clinical psychologist or a licensed psychologist to do the evaluation. It has to be a school psychologist or a licensed educational psychologist because they want something similar to what they would get in the educational setting.
I lost my train of thought. Oh, the question is, how do you do it? How do you figure that out? And that’s a big question and a big reason why people don’t do it. It’s a bit like the Wild West. [00:20:00] I will say that since COVID, more and more school psychologists are feeling burnt out.
Dr. Sharp: I can see that.
Jana: Working for schools is getting much harder. People are starting to like the LEP. When I got my LEP and when I was working with the board on some of the test development, this was many years ago, they said the LEP is the most underutilized license of the Board of Behavioral Sciences because people would get the license, but then never do anything with it because they were working in schools and it’s hard to do something different.
Dr. Sharp: What is the typical track? Do most folks who get the LEP just go back to work in the schools and it’s just an extra credential or do most of them go to private practice or do they go somewhere else?
Jana: Most of them are [00:21:00] still working in schools and just have it in their back pocket, but it does require 36 hours of continuing education every three years. There are significant professional development requirements, which of course takes money. So keeping up your license is expensive, but also thank goodness, we have that requirement because I think we should always be continuing with that learning curve. Most people just sit on it.
I think that since COVID-19, in the past two years, there’s been a significant increase in people hungry for change or something different. And so it’s been the perfect time for me to take over and revamp Empower LEP as a community to be a support and a resource for people who are thinking about either making the shift completely or making it even a little bit.
Dr. Sharp: Right. We talked a little bit about this, but [00:22:00] I would love to hear what you think are the unique challenges that face this group as they are going into private practice.
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Jana: Gosh, so many. I would say the biggest one is fear. It’s fear of the unknown. It’s fear of that uncertainty. It’s self-doubt. It’s not trusting that they’re going to be able to do it. And also fear of the unknown, that it’s easy to be in a school job for the consistency and all of the perks that come along with it. You know where your next [00:25:00] paycheck is coming from. You know you’re going to have a pension when you retire. You know you have a good benefits package.
You just know that you’re going to get paid the same amount all the time, and then you’re going to get little incremental raises, hopefully every year. So it’s easy. When people think about doing something different, I don’t know about you but I was not taught anything about business, so there’s a whole lot to learn in terms of business logistics. You do mentoring and coaching like this too, there’s all of that and then there’s also this huge clinical piece. So how do you learn how to do that?
I got super fortunate because I got hired into a multidisciplinary practice run by a developmental pediatrician. We had other LEPs working alongside me. I had a doctor, I had nurse practitioners, I had other mental health professionals, I had people to [00:26:00] learn from, and people to consult on my cases and supervise me, as I learned, because …
Dr. Sharp: That’s so helpful.
Jana: I knew what I was seeing, and I knew what that was in schools, but that transition into taking what I knew I was seeing and turning it into answering these families’ questions using my assessment data to answer the questions and using so much more than just the numbers that are going to establish eligibility, but looking at the process of what kids were going through while they were doing these assessments with me in my office, like talking to their teachers and trying to conceptualize cases to answer questions rather than just establish eligibility, that was hard. It felt like a lot of pressure, like oh my gosh, I’m going to give this kid a clinical diagnosis.
So I felt fortunate to work alongside people who were helping me do [00:27:00] that. And that’s what I do for my team here at my practice, but that’s also what I do now at Empower LEP, because a lot of these people are going out and doing things on their own, and it is a lot to learn.
And if they’re not going to be part of a practice and they are going to do it on their own, I think they should reach out for help and they do.
I think the biggest pieces of why they wouldn’t or the pain points of people, as they are considering this change, are internal self-doubt, learning how to run a business, and learning how to think and use assessment data in a more clinical manner than they have been in schools.
Dr. Sharp: That makes sense. I think all those things are relevant for a lot of us as we jump into private [00:28:00] practice. It seems like there’s this added layer, I’ve consulted with two folks over the years who are masters-level psychologists and we do have to cross a big gap of how do you market your services and be competitive with doctoral-level clinicians. Because for better or for worse, there is a bias of sorts, folks want a “doctor”. And so I’m curious, do you run into that and how do you work through that when you’re offering a similar service without what seems like an equivalent credential?
Jana: That’s a great question. I talk to people who are calling all the time, and I talk to people who are trying to learn how to explain their services. I think there’s a lot of imposter syndrome that comes along with this because we do feel [00:29:00] like, oh, am I lesser because I only have a master’s degree? Should I go get my doctorate right now?
I take it back to myself, look, I have gone through so much professional development. I wish that I had made a decision about licensure earlier in my career. It’s just not going to happen right now. So I’ve got to be confident and know that I may not have a doctorate and I may not be a licensed psychologist, but I have a lot of experience. I’ve done a lot of professional development and my experience as an educational psychologist is in schools. It’s in the trenches.
I have seen it all. I have been in it all. We as school psychologists need to know how powerful that is and how unique that experience is. I always say, look, everybody has a [00:30:00] different kind of experience and training that leads them to how they’re conceptualizing cases, how they’re supporting families. There’s no right or wrong, better or worse, it’s just different.
So when parents call me, I’m not focused on what other people might do, I’m focused on the fact that if this feels like a referral that’s coming in because the parent is concerned about their kid at school, I am the best person for that. That’s how I feel. I know other people are probably really great too, but I have to internalize that. That’s my messaging for myself to help me have the confidence. I’ve been there. I’ve been in schools. I know what happens. I can talk to the teachers.
Most of the time, I don’t even need to do an observation. I know by just getting on the phone with that teacher and talking about that actual experience, and I know what [00:31:00] the behavior with me might look like in a classroom. We have this very specialized lens in which to look at these cases through, and that’s what I talk to parents about.
That’s what sets us apart. It’s different but that different does not mean lesser. Different just means this is my lens through an educational lens and then the rest. It’s not like we don’t give recommendations for what parents can do at home but if the referral question is, it’s also like making recommendations like what does this kid need in order to function in an educational setting that I have so much experience working in? How is this realistically going to work?
I think that all the experience that we have as school psychologists really helps us if we stay in our [00:32:00] lane of what we know and refer out when it’s a different kind of case. If somebody just wants to know if their kid has anxiety or there’s some significant mental health thing going on, I’m going to refer out. There are some educational psychologists who may feel very comfortable with that, but that’s not what we do here with me.
I think it’s knowing what your scope is and where we fit in, feeling confident about that and how unique our specialization is, and referring out and knowing when to do that.
Dr. Sharp: That makes sense. Like any of us, we can only have so many areas of expertise. I would love to talk in more detail what Empower LEP actually does. You’ve touched on it and given us a little bit of an overview, but I know that you have a lot going on over [00:33:00] there, and I would love to hear more about it. What would you say are your main offerings, so to speak?
Jana: The mission for Empower LEP is to take people along this journey from school psychologist to private practitioner; whatever that means for them, because some people are never going to leave the schools, but that doesn’t mean they can’t do something on the side, part-time private practice. They may even just want to lead the schools, but do contracting work in different agencies for school districts.
There are so many possibilities. It starts there. It’s like, what are the possibilities? It’s building a community of collaboration and support of each other, and also providing that guidance in all of those [00:34:00] different areas that people get stuck. Those three areas; the self-doubt piece, we have mentorship for that. In fact, Scott has done mentorship for my group. He’s about to start another one.
That piece of it, I bring professionals in because I can’t teach everything myself. So I bring professionals in who specialize in different areas. So whether it’s business coaching, whether we’re doing the internal piece, whether we’re doing business logistics, whether we’re doing clinical case work, it’s a community that offers guidance and support in all of those areas because we don’t have to do it alone.
I say empower LEP is for educational psychologists, but it’s also for anybody who’s making a shift into private practice. My focus is on this unique [00:35:00] niche because there are some unique aspects to this that are different from doctoral level and licensed psychologists but there’s also a lot of similarities. I think the overarching message is you don’t have to do it alone. There is a community here for you.
Dr. Sharp: That’s so valuable. That’s the number one thing. I do coaching groups for folks and it’s such a draw to these groups. You probably hear this all the time too, but it’s just the, am I the only one thinking about this stuff? Is there anybody else out there who gets it; who understands my life and can help support me in this process? It’s so validating to have a group of people who are going through it together.
Jana: Absolutely. It’s always in progress. I want it to go faster than it has. I’m like, [00:36:00] focus on my practice, which you know is very time-consuming.
Dr. Sharp: Oh, sure.
Jana: I did not realize in running a group practice just how much of me that would take. I’m incrementally starting to try to pull myself away from the day-to-day business stuff. I still want to be a practicing clinician. I do still do that, but finding all the time and having to code switch in my head from okay, business, and now I see this kid and then business, and then, oh, now I see this kid and now I have this phone call, it’s a lot.
And so empower LEP, I would like it to be going faster, but I’m incrementally building as I go. I have a website. It’s empowerlep.com. I have two different courses versus passing the LEP exam. I have networking and business basics. [00:37:00] I’ve got mentorship opportunities in groups or individually.
I have a podcast, it’s the Empower LEP podcast. On that podcast, I’m focusing on people’s stories for inspiration. There are two different kinds of episodes I do. I do interviews with people hearing their story and the cool things they’re doing based on their own specialty areas. I interview people who are building communities online, building AI, people who went into research or test development, professors, and then other educational psychologists who are developing their practices in different ways.
I think that, for the audience, hearing people’s stories helps them go like, oh, wow, that’s [00:38:00] cool. I could do that. Because it’s important that we, as school psychologists, whether we stay in schools or leave, and for anybody in this profession, we have to keep our buckets full. I think that finding the things that light us up inside helps to fill those buckets.
So even if someone was going to stay as a full-time school psychologist, but just do a little something outside, maybe that something is the thing that’s going to keep them able to do the good work that they’re doing in the schools. We have to keep finding and following the thing that drives our internal purpose. So we do that on the podcast. I also do some solo episodes where I talk about things about business or our scope of practice or just things that come up.
The podcast has been a special thing to me that I have really enjoyed doing. I have a Facebook group; it’s the Empower LEP Facebook Group [00:39:00] that anybody’s welcome to join. That’s where we have the community. So that’s what Empower LEP is all about and what I have to offer.
Dr. Sharp: I’m biased, but podcasting and building a community is a pretty amazing thing to do so I can get on board with that. Congratulations.
Jana: Thank you. I’m definitely loving it. You’ve been a big inspiration too. I’ve been listening to you since probably 2019. I don’t know how I found out about you, but I’ve been listening for a long time and it’s been really helpful, everything that you’ve shared. So thank you.
Dr. Sharp: That’s incredible. Thanks.
Jana: You’re welcome.
Dr. Sharp: That means a lot. That’s super cool. I was going to ask you, if you had to boil it down, because I know there are folks out there who [00:40:00] are listening and hearing parts of themselves here, who’s the ideal person for Empower LEP? What are they doing with their lives? What are they thinking? What are they worried about? Who’s your target person?
Jana: It’s aspiring or practicing educational psychologists. It’s people who are anywhere from, I’m a school psychologist and I’m like, I don’t know, I need something more. What is it? Is it private practice? What is it? Just anybody who is searching for a bucket filler in their career and not thinking about leaving the career per se, but what else can they do and how can they find that?
And then people who are already in it, people who are beginners, and then people who are farther into it. How do I [00:41:00] do this? I’m thinking about changing such and such. I’m not sure about this next phase I’m going into because there aren’t that many of us doing this out here but I think that whether you’re in California or anywhere across the nation, we all are having questions about both business and clinical practice all the time. So it’s people who are in any phase and people who are just starting to think about it.
One of the things that I wanted to share with the listeners is that I have a downloadable, it’s called My Why, which is a little bit cheesy, but also that’s the whole beginning. It’s about figuring out from a lot of different perspectives why you would want to do something different and what that could possibly be. And so it’s a workbook [00:42:00] that takes people through that journey.
It helps to uncover those deeply personal and professional motivations so that they can grow, whether it’s themselves, they want to do group practice, or they want to do something online, what is it? And so I wanted to offer it to your listeners. They just have to go to empowerlep.com/jeremy. They can get the workbook for free.
Dr. Sharp: Nice. We’ll make sure to put in the show notes.
Jana: Awesome. I’m eager to connect with people too. I can be found at jana@empowerlep.com. People can connect with me. They can join the Facebook group, Empower LEP Facebook group, and listen to the podcast because I love podcasting. I love hearing people’s stories, and I love talking to the community, even though a lot of times I feel like I’m just talking to myself, but the feedback that I get has been really great. I’m looking forward to hopefully growing that a bit more too.
[00:43:00] Dr. Sharp: That sounds great. Hopefully, folks go check out the podcast. I’ll be on there sometime soon. We’ll see.Jana: Yes. I’m excited for that.
Dr. Sharp: It will be a lot of fun to turn the tables and have a happy little conversation.
Jana: Absolutely. I’ll put you in the hot seat.
Dr. Sharp: Yeah. Oh my gosh. I’m just coming off testifying this morning, so even hearing you say that I’m like, maybe not. Maybe we’ll put that off for a little.
Jana: We’ll wait a little bit.
Dr. Sharp: Podcasts are a lot of fun. Jana, thanks so much for coming on. This is a lot of fun. It’s good to connect with you. You got a fantastic resource out there for folks who really need it so hopefully folks will reach out.
Jana: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.
Dr. Sharp: All right, y’all. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode. Always grateful to have you here. I hope that you take away some information that you can implement in your practice and in your life. Any resources that we mentioned during the episode will be listed in the show notes so make sure to check those out.
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